I spoke with him twice. He is obviously stunned. The first words out of his mouth were: ‘You wouldn’t believe the carnage I saw around.’
He was very clear and articulate even though he was obviously in a lot of pain. The second time I spoke to him he was obviously sedated and feeling a lot more tired.
All I know is that force of the blast where he was was sufficient to throw him 6ft [1.8m] up in to the air and he landed back and he got shrapnel in his left leg and his right hip.
Very quickly there were photos of him circulating in the Belgium press and, because we have a huge network of friends in Belgium, they reached out and sent a picture of him on the floor and asked: is that really Seb?
And that was four in the morning. California time. That is how we found out.